tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN October 3, 2012 4:00am-5:00am EDT
good evening. we begin with less than 24 hours from the first debate. we are on fire from the left, fire from the right. even though parts were unseen, but we are pretty certain of the timing of the release or possibly the re-release seems designed to score political points. the first of a speech then senator barack obama gave back in hampton, virginia, in 2007. the conservative website "daily collar" says it, "obama's other
speech. the barely recognizable obama." claims government spends too much on suburbs, not quote, our earlier neighborhood. here now with remarks on how response to hurricane katrina differed from hurricane andrew and for 9/11 attacks. >> down in new orleans where they have not rebuild a year later, there's money you can get from the government called the staff ford act. and basically it says when you get federal money, you have to give a 10% local match. the government has to come up with 10%. every $10 federal government comes up with, local government has to come up with a dollar. now here's the thing, when 9/11 happened in new york city, they
waved the safford act saying we can't ask new york city to rebuild. they said, here's $10 and that was the right thing to do. when hurricane andrew struck in florida, people said, look at this devastation. we don't expect you to come up with your own money. here's the money to rebuild. we are not going to wait for you to scratch it together. because you're part of the american family. >> what's happening down in new orleans? where is your dollar? where is your stafford act money? makes no sense. doesn't mean the bullet has been taken out. tells me that somehow the people down in new orleans don't care about as much. >> president obama, that was five years ago. you decide whether this shows a
side of barack obama never been seen before as the daily collar suggests or if it's nothing new. some say the president is speaking in a different kind of voice than he does in other speeches. you can also decide the same thing about this, about the coop tent of the next video, "the huffington post" first linked this video to it earlier. paul ryan speaking at a 2011 dinner hosted by "the american spectator." some of the left members say this is like mitt romney's video on the 47%. >> the good news is survey after survey, poll after poll, still shows that we are a center-right 70-30 country. 70% of americans want the american dream. they believe the american idea. only 30% want the welfare state. what that tells us is that at least half those people currently in that category are there not of their wish or their will. >> now liberal websites are
focusing on the ryan speech. conservatives are focusing on the obama speech. the "huffington post" ryan reaction was, only 30% want the well stare state just as it is every day on the campaign trail, was one of upward mobility and opportunity for all americans. whether this amounts to anything, joining me is political analyst rowlan martin and eric, let me start with you on this obama tape. to you, what's the significance of it? >> i think the significance of it was the media that portrayed barack obama as a post-racial president. it was not the obama campaign. the media for a long time portrayed barack obama as above the old political rhetoric both sides did. here's barack obama telling a black crowd that basically they are part of the american community. he said florida was with
hurricane andrew and with hurricane katrina it wasn't. the facts were not true. hurricane katrina got $110 billion to the gulf coast. well more than was put in with the stafford exempt. they got additional grants from the government. had a white position done this to a white crowd saying a white president was denying sections to a white part of the community, the press would be tearing him alive. if you don't believe me, ask trent lock. >> are you saying it is also the way president obama was speaking that raises eyebrows for you and this shows president obama is different than the way he regularly portrays himself? >> anderson, i'm from louisiana, if i were talking to you the way i talk to friends back home, you wouldn't be able to understand me. >> my dad is mississippi, so i did go down to a mississippi reunion. >> george bush sounded more southern below the mason/dixon
line. politicians on both sides do that. i don't hold him at fault for trying to sound like a pandering politician. >> roland, what do you make of this video? >> i think it is utterly laughable that sean hannity and the rest of the folks make this out to be something significant. something that was written on june 7th, 2007, on cnn.com, was a column i wrote with the headline called "obama's quiet riots are real." so they want to -- >> quiet riot is a phrase he was using in this very speech. >> no, but my point is i was referencing the speech that he also gave to the hampton ministers conference. here's the deal, you talk about the amount of money spent on the gulf coast. first of all, new orleans and gulf coast, that's alabama and mississippi, okay? is this going to have any impact
of the selection? absolutely not. this is something more than sean hannity's infactuation with reverend jeremiah wright. >> roy watkins, is there significanceo this, do you believe? >> i think there's no material significance here, but the republicans are very good at taking nothing and turning it into what appears to be something. we have to remember we live in a country that has forever been poise upped by the psychological disease of racism. and it doesn't take much to spark that back up. if you look at what president obama is saying, of course white politicians wouldn't say what he's saying because african-americans have a unique history in this country. we have a history of documented discrimination that is, in fact, undeniable. so when you look at what happened to katrina, anybody in their right mind would say, yes, there's some disparity there and any president, white or black, should note the disparity, not as a criticism on the greatness of america but really as an
opportunity for our country to get a little bit better. >> i don't think that's what president obama was doing. >> go ahead, erick. >> he's telling a black crowd, he uses the phrase regarding hurricane andrew as the government saw those people in florida as part of the american community. and the people affected by hurricane katrina, my parents and my family, for example, as something other than. but he's addressing a largely black crowd and making the point that very clearly that they in new orleans got treated differently from people in new york and people in florida because they somehow weren't part of the american community. that's fanning the flames. >> one at a time. >> can you really argue that there was party in the treatment? there's no way you can argue that. we have to accept the fact that president obama is not a man that is here to offer just cosmetic diversity in the white house, it's okay for him to come out of the closet and to be a black man sometimes and to use that opportunity to talk about some of the things that our country needs to discuss.
nobody, especially internationally, can see what happened in katrina and pretend that race did not play a role. >> one at a time. i know you both are on skype so it is complicated, but roland, critics of president obama are watching the video and saying, well, look, here's speaking differently to a crowd and saying things he has not said to a larger audience. is that a fair criticism or do voices point to the crowd he's speaking to? >> here's the first thing, speaker guinness hasher questioned whether we should be at war. that got significant pushback from people in that region, people specific in the wards. >> it was a racial point. it was about new orleans being below sea level. >> one second. one second.
they were offended by that. anderson, here's the deal. speaking in front of a black audience, he was talking to the congressional black caucus. what he said, i heard him speak to the naacp in 2009 when he talked about charter school, things along those lines, he got criticized for lecturing african-americans. i didn't hear anybody white complain about that. that was all -- let's just be honest, politicians always talk in a different way, different approach, whether you are democrat or conservative. >> roland, what critics are saying his whole message of we are not a white america, black america, blue state america, red state america, this shows him being divisive. to that you say what?
i think we lost roland. he's on a train. >> erick. >> as a native of louisiana i'm offended by this portrayal by democrats that somehow louisiana and new orleans were treated horribly by the bush administration because they were black. mississippi got hit as well. i have entire family and friends gone because of hurricane katrina in southern mississippi. mississippi was treated exactly identityicly by the federal government as louisiana and had its act together. it was a louisiana government notoriously corrupt and ineptd. to hang that on some racism against louisiana is not only deeply offensive but continues to perpetuate wounds in this country except for people like barack obama told a black crowd you were treated differently because you were black. >> we want more on this discussion. we have to stop right now for time. erick erickson, roland martin, no doubt we appreciate that. up next, shifting stories about what really happened at the embassy capital in benghazi,
foot inside the american compound in benghazi. what the terrible scene was like after the deadly assault that killed four americans. evidence she saw that might have been useful to investigators. that is, had investigators ever had a chance to stand where she stood. indications perhaps that might help locate the culprits. keeping them honest, nearly everyone and anyone has now been able to gain access to the crime scene, except, that is, for fbi agents and now for them, it's no longer worth taking the risk to going to benghazi. but there is at least some indication tonight that enough is known about who did this to begin planning some kind of response. a senior american official telling us that the pentagon and intelligence community have begun preparing so-called target packages, detailed information that can be used to capture or kill some of the terrorists who did this. now, at the same time, though, the administration continues to come under withering fire, especially, not exclusively, from republican lawmakers over the killings and whether they might have been prevented some way.
members of the house oversight committee today sent a letter to the state department asking for answers in person from secretary clinton, leveling serious allegations including these, the attack quote, was clearly never as administration officials once insisted, the result of a popular protest. more damningly, this, quote, multiple u.s. federal government officials have confirmed the committee that prior to the september 11 attacks, the u.s. mission in libya made repeated requests for increased security in benghazi. the letter goes on to detail a series of attacks and incidents in libya that formed the basis for those calls for more security resources, resources that the letter alleges were denied by officials in washington. we'll have more on that angle shortly. first, arwa damon joins me. she's back from libya and joins me here in new york. very good to see you safe and sound. walk me back. you were at the site three days after the attack. you have some still photographs that have never been seen before. describe what we see. >> well, the first in these
photographs is basically the exterior of the main building at the compound itself. this is the building where the ambassador resided, and the right hand portion of the building is where the so-called safe room was supposed to be. as you can see, the burning all occurred inside the building itself. >> it doesn't look very touched on the outside. >> no. very much a lot of the damage on this building inside, happening inside. the fire burning. there's one part of the building where there's an entrance way into this so-called safe room, that is pretty much just a heavy metal door. that door was shut when we arrived. that's the interior of the building. that was the ambassador's bedroom. that chair right there next to that chair is where we actually found the ambassador's journal. the doorway leading into this part of the building was shut, as i was saying, this metal door blocking that off. you can see it right there. there was pretty much no way to get out, because all of the windows at the point where we were there had metal on the exterior of them, except for the one window where the ambassador's body was carried
out. that is how we crawled in. eyewitnesses who were there said they had to physically remove the bars from that building, you see it right there. they had to remove the bars from that window to get the ambassador's body out. >> how were you able to get access to the site? was there any security there? >> no. there pretty much wasn't. we drove up to the main gate. at the time that we were there, the head of the general national congress was conducting a tour. we walked in, interviewed him, then spent over an hour on site filming, walking around looking at things. we were there, the owner of the compound was there along with some of his relatives. there were some security guards, the gardner, and a bunch of libyans rifling through everything and people were telling us that they had full-on access to it. >> the libyans rifling through things? >> rifling through things, picking up bits and pieces. they had actually laid a wreath earlier on the outside of one of these things. >> so other information, there had been classified information, whatever, could have been picked up by libyans and taken away.
>> we were told there was a lot taken away. people said there was a safe there that was taken away. what we also saw while there were things one would have assumed would have been of interest to investigators, had they gone. the toilet in this safe room suite, as we call it, has a very strange what seems to be a very strange blood stain on the side of it. you can see it in the images right there. we don't know what that is. we don't know what happened but it raises a lot of questions as to what could have taken place. there's another part in this same area where it looks like a handprint is on the wall that has slid down. again, a lot of unanswered questions. >> there's a story that a fire was set, that diesel fuel was poured around the exterior of the room or part of the compound. did you see any signs of that? >> what's clear is that the exterior of the compound, the exterior of the various buildings, were not set on fire. the burning that took place that we saw all happened on the inside. >> really. that's interesting. so what does that tell you?
do you see any signs of rpgs, holes in roofs or -- >> there is one hole in the main building that looks like it could have been caused by a rocket-propelled grenade. there is the main doorway into the main building was splintered, looked as if it had possibly been forced open. there was holes in the walls, it looked like they could have been shrapnel but on the exterior of the buildings, there were not a lot of signs of very heavy, intense damage that would have been caused by rocket-propelled grenades but we still did see even three days on a number of shell casings on the ground. again, other bits and pieces that had been very rifled through, a lot of things had been taken, but there were bits and pieces that could have provided clues. >> overall the security situation in benghazi, the fbi has not gone in. there was concern they would not be able to set up a perimeter, safe perimeter that they could do an investigation, that mortars could be fired in. what is the security situation like right now? >> it's very much open space. there still is not heavy
security, at least there wasn't when we left there around a week ago. there aren't checkpoints leading up to it, for example. it's very open. now, could they hypothetically, the libyan government has said they're willing to provide investigators with security using whatever assets they have, whether it's members of the libyan army, members of the various militias who they deem to be even more trustworthy. >> could a friendly militia group there seal off a large enough area? >> the february 17th militia which is the largest one in benghazi and arguably the most powerful one is the one that eventually did come to the aid of those who were in the consulate while the attack was taking place. they have offered security and it was members of this militia, in fact, who say that they were the ones who warned the americans three days before the attack took place that there was a heightened threat against them. >> i want to bring in fran townsend. fran, fran and arwa both have been breaking news on this story really from the beginning. as you know, fran was homeland security advisor during the
george w. bush administration, as we often point out, she currently serves on the cia's external advisory committee and recently traveled to libya with her employer, mcandrews and forbes. she had actually met with ambassador stevens. what do you make of the pictures you see of what arwa's talking about? >> as i listen to arwa, it just reinforces what we said last week and we've said from the beginning. investigators have to go there, even if you didn't have all the physical evidence there that arwa just described to our viewers, you would want to know from the witness interviews, anderson, you would want to know measurements, you would want to be able to take people through it to really understand what the dynamic was. but then you see things like handprints and blood samples. one of the things, the first thing you would do, i'll give you an example, that is you would take the blood sample off the toilet and the bidet and see whether or not it matched first to the ambassador's. did he fall? there's all sorts of things you would want to know. you know, the pictures we've seen publicly of his body
doesn't look like he did, but you don't know. and all those sorts of bits of information, it is true, it would be a less valuable crime scene now because people have rifled through it, but there's always some value and what they're telling us now is that they think the risk is too great in terms of the security, but i have never understood, if the february 17th brigade was there, they were friendly, they were willing, and we trusted them, certainly, before the attack, why we wouldn't have taken them along with u.s. military assets and set up the perimeter that the fbi needed. >> i mean, even theoretically, a lot of people will tweet in and say well, if you were able to get to it, how come some american investigators wouldn't be able to. i guess it's a question of how much time american investigators would want to spend to actually do a full, thorough forensic investigation. >> that's part of it, anderson, but the other piece to this is they represent -- when the american investigators go in, they represent the united states. there's a certain international respect for journalists. it's not -- it's plenty dangerous for arwa to be there
but they represent a u.s. target. >> it would be a heightened target, obviously. i guess part of it, too, if mortar fire was involved in the initial attack or rpg fire, if they were to come under fire, the investigators, they would want to be able to return fire to take out mortar positions, anti-battery positions and to do that, you would need a significant capability to return fire. >> that's exactly right. and everybody we've spoken to suggests that look, if we had to go in, we didn't want to bring in that big a footprint and it would have been difficult for the libyan government, although cooperative, to agree to that at such a fragile time in the establishment of this. >> you have new information on the u.s. preparing target packages. what have you -- >> you know, anderson, it's funny when i read this, i would have been surprised if they weren't doing that. remember, after the east african embassy bombings, the clinton administrations launched into training camps in afghanistan and sudan. this is part of the usual process, right? you look at the intelligence and the military will prepare and say what targets do we have, what is our basis for making them a target, that is, capture,
kill, target with drones, and what is our likelihood of success. also, there's a secondary process of who would we like to have more on, if we had that information, we could prepare better target packages, and they'll levy requirements on the intelligence agencies to go out and get that information for them. so it's sort of an ongoing process between the intelligence community and the military community as they prepare in case the president asks for options. in the meantime, on parallel tracks, you've got congress, you've got the state department investigation, and you've got the fbi. >> arwa, you spent a lot of time in war zones. is there something about this that surprised you, about what you saw, about gaining access to this site? >> it was that it was really such a soft target. you would not expect any establishment, never mind a consulate, to have had such a lack of security to it, especially in a place where there had been attacks against the west. the location itself had been targeted and the u.s. was
monitoring not too far away, around a three hour drive away, and around it, the activity of known extremist groups who, in some cases, are being led with individuals who are directly affiliated, if not members of al qaeda in and of itself. it was such a soft target. >> arwa and i were talking earlier, and the thing that strikes me about that, anderson, is every counterterrorism specialist will tell you one of the hallmarks of al qaeda is they return to failed targets. so the "uss cole" that was the success the year before, the trade center in '93, then back in 2001. the notion that there were at least two attempts at this consulate and nobody made this a really hard target is really a dereliction of duty. that's part of the outrage you're hearing. there's plenty of partisanship in washington but there's a certain sense of outrage and i think that's part of why congressman issa has whistle blowers.
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let's dig deeper now, president obama and mitt romney take the stage tomorrow night, how they look, what they say during the debate could speak volumes over what they actually say. their body language speaks volumes. we have an associate professor at harvard business school. she joins me now. you say when it comes to gestures, ones that convey power and warmth are really important to making effective politician, and you point to former president bill clinton as master
of warmth. i want to show a video of him during a town hall with ross per roet and then president bush back in 2002. >> you know people who lost their homes and lost their homes? >> uh-huh. >> he's walking toward this woman, toward this voter, away from the people on stage. so he's focused on the voter, not on the other candidates. he's gentle, his body language is gentle. he's leaning toward her, he's even softened his voice. he's nodding, makes incredible eye contact. he signals to people when he is talking to them, you are the only person in the room. you are the only person. the clinton tractor beam that really melted people. >> i feel your pain without even saying it. >> that's exactly right. >> there's a classic moment between al gore and george bush back from 2008, i want to show
that and see what al gore does and how george bush reacts? >> not only what your philosophy and position on issues, but can you get things done? and i believe i can. >> explain that? >> this looked very overscripted and rehearsed. he's decided to show dominance and sort of alpha bush by walking into his space, but it just completely backfires. it doesn't look natural, so it makes him look disingenuous, and bush happened handles it to incredibly well that it looks worse for al gore. and then you can see how wooden al gore's face looks in response to that reaction. >> in terms of classic power moves during the debate, what are they? >> one is who initiates the handshake. they are both vying to be the one who initiates the handshake. second, during the handshake, look at who is grabbing whose arm? obama often will not only shake the hand, but grab the arm of the person whose hand he's shaking.
that's a real power move. another one is to hold the sides of the podium, and that -- that allows you to expand and expansive postures are associated with power, strength and come indianapolis. >> are there positive versus negative body moves you are looking for in tomorrow night's debate? >> let's talk about the negatives first. they are fun. please, no finger pointing. it almost never works. >> is that why politics do the thumb on the first thing? i have never seen an actual human use this gesture. politicians seem to do that. >> i think that's a clinton thing. it looks like he's holding a remote control. i think open gestures are almost always more effective than any closed gestures. >> it's important for a candidate's body language to match what they are saying, right? a classic example going back to 2007, john mccain talking about osama bin laden. i want to play that. >> another painful one. >> on the subject of osama bin laden, he is responsible for the
deaths of thousands of innocent americans, he is now orchestrating other attacks on the united states of america, we will do whatever is necessary, we will track him down, we will capture, bring him to justice and i'll follow him to the gates of hell. >> okay. >> oh, gosh. >> that was like a smile. >> yes. so that's -- you know, sort of nonverbal asin cronie. between either the content of what the person is saying and the nonverbals are saying or asynchronies between the nonverbals. when you are saying you are following someone to the gates of hell, you shouldn't be smiling. viewers don't know why, but it makes them feel bad. it is very adversive to see that kind of thing. >> there are reports that romney's team is preparing what are called zingers for tomorrow night's debate. when a candidate has been stung by one, it can be very effective. the exchange between ronald reagan and walter mondale demonstrates a very effective use of this.
let's take a look. >> i will not make age an issue of this campaign. i am not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience. >> did mondale's reaction help him there? >> i don't think it hurt him. i think that what -- i think what you saw was net positive. i think it definitely helped reagan, he owned this possible criticism verbally and delivered it so comfortably and warmly. mondale's reaction was comfortable, and warm in response. the general feeling was positive, but people are going -- voters attribute that positive feeling they had to reagan, not to mondale. >> it's fascinating stuff. amy, appreciate your expert
advice. thank you. >> thanks, thank you. >> i find that stuff fascinating. we'll look for body language tomorrow night. a lot more to follow. susan hendricks with a 360 bulletin. according to american airlines, an internal investigation shows an improperly installed clamp is to blame for loose passenger seats on six planes, two of which made emergency landings, the lamp is used on 47 boeing 757s in america's fleet. most have been inspected. the others will be checked shortly. mike mcqueary has formed a whistleblower lawsuit against the university. he is seeking $4 million from the school for allegedly defaming him and firing him for cooperation with prosecutors. jimmy hoffa's remains are not buried under a storage shed in suburban detroit. soil test results show no evidence of human remains on that property. and sheriff's deputies in pinellas county, florida, are searching for this woman who tried to ride a manitee on sunday. they say she violated a state
law against mammals in the water and she could face a demeanor fine. >> leave manatees alone. they get run over by the boats, sweet, gentle creatures. >> it's not a dolphin. >> don't be grabbing dolphins either. >> good point. >> susan, thanks. president obama and mitt romney prepping heavily for the first debate less than 24 hours away. how high are the stakes? who has the edge? what are each candidate's weak spots? we'll look at that next in the program.
less than 24 hours from now, with the election five weeks away, president obama and mitt romney will face off. both men have been prepping heavily. evidence shows presidential debates can shift a race. joining me now alan schroeder, a professor of the school of journalism in northeast university in boston.
author of "presidential debates, 50 years of high-risk tv" and patrick millsap who served as chief of staff in newt gingrich's campaign. patrick, you say that newt gingrich's pious baa loney line is one of the strongest hits during his campaign run against mitt romney. >> can we drop some of the pious baloney? you ran in '94 and lost. that's why you weren't serving in the senate for rick santorum. suddenly citizenship showed up in your mind, level with the american people. you have been running since the 1990s. >> how much of those zingers are pre-thought out and what does mitt romney have to do to avoid taking a big hit tomorrow night? >> that was all newt. part of great thing about newt, he knew the topic, knew the weak points, but prepared to answer the question. if you can come up with pious
baloney, that puts a cherry on top. if you googled baloney two hours after the debate, you would get oscar meyer and then newt gingrich. romney has the same opportunity, when it comes to obama's populous messages, i'm one of the common guys and you're out of touch. romney has an opportunity to say you have made $2 million in one year, you spent more money in your time in the white house than the royal family. how are you one of the common map you say you're a part of? i think preparation is important, knowing the material is important. but then being comfortable enough in your own skin and comfortable with the topic that you can come up with a pious baloney moment. those aren't planned, they aren't scripted, it just happens when it happens. >> but, professor schroeder, we've heard reports that the romney campaign has been preparing some so-called zingers that mitt romney's practiced and
can use. i don't know why they would leak that kind of information, because it's like setting you up to fail if it doesn't work out. but how important are little lines like that, do you think? in the history of debates? >> i think they can be very important. i am suspicious about the fact that they are talking about it so much in advance. the mere fact they are telegraphing it means they don't plan to go through with it. it's hard to work a zinger in organically and that's the beauty of a line like pious baloney, it flowed naturally into the conversation. >> in terms of -- a lot of people remember newt gingrich talking about moon colonies during the primary. mitt romney hit back at him on that. let's take a look. >> i spent 25 years in business if i had a business executive come to me and said they want to spend a few billion to put a colony on the moon, i'd say you're fired. >> you think that's an example of romney at his best, straight toward and exerting business experience of what he knows.
>> i do. it made newt gingrich look foolish and then subliminally, reinforced romney as someone with business credentials, he got to refer to him as a ceo. you want a two-pronged attack, helps you and hurts the other guy. >> it does -- mitt romney does struggle sometimes when if comes to attempts at humor or levity, he made a george costanza reference that felt a little debated. not that there is anything wrong with that. this exchange with rick perry. i want to play that. >> rick, i'll tell you what. $10,000? $10,000 bet. >> i'm not in the betting business. >> oh, okay. okay. >> that clearly got a lot of pickup. one of the dangers of offscript moments for a candidate like mitt romney.
>> i think that this debate, the structure, you heard the audience laughing and a give and take. this is one of the silent debates where the audience is not going to be participating, florida, i think that you were seeing the same scenario that is set up for romney to give his two best debate performances in florida, which we just saw there. exactly where we are now in the campaign and that is his -- you know, he might feel like his back is against the wall, his type of debate, no one debate prep fits all. if you look at the difference of the "tonight show," johnny carson liked the audience to be away from him. and jay leno likes to be amongst the audience and both were equally as funny doing the same job. the type of debate we'll see tomorrow night suits romney's strengths and he has the ability to stay on -- stay on the offensive and really call out obama. >> yeah. >> on some of the things, just like with newt. >> professor, it's interesting.
professor obama, not without his own weaknesses, hasn't debated since 2008. some criticize him for being long-winded. professorial. no offense, professor. and there was this moment when he debated hillary clinton. let's take a look. >> he's very likeable. i agree with that. i don't think i'm that bad. >> you're likeable enough, hillary. >> i appreciate that. >> a fine line between, you know, putting your opponent on notice and not appearing to be mean. >> yes. the thing about that clip is she's so self-effacing and good, and he comes back, barely makes eye contact, sort of writing as he makes his line. it's a contrast between the two of them that really hurts him in that clip. >> especially in the double box. professor schroeder, thank you for being with us and patrick millsaps.
syrian is willing to sit down with the killers of the syrian government who have been responsible for every drop of blood that has been shed. that was in response to syria's foreign minister calling for a dialogue at the u.n. general assembly yesterday. a border patrol agent was shot and killed today in arizona. 30-year-old nicholas ivy was shot after responding to a sensor that went off near the border. another agent was wounded. the fbi and local police are investigating the shooting. new york's attorney general says more lawsuits against big banks are on the way as a task force investigates the crash of 2008. the first suit filed is against jpmorgan chase over allegations that bear stearns which it owns committed fraud against investors. the weather channel has decided hey, hurricanes get names, why not blizzards. the network announced today it will give names to the worst winter storms to make it easier to follow their progress. it already has a list from a to z of winter storm names. including athena, gandalf, and zeus. >> interesting.
yes, it's that time of the night. time for the "ridiculist." tonight we're adding restaurant road kill. yes, that would be road kill found in a restaurant. in williamsburg, kentucky, a woman was at a chinese restaurant at lunchtime with the ambiance was somewhat compromised by the sight of a deer carcass being unceremoniously dragged into the kitchen.
you know what, i think i will let her give you the specifics. >> there was like a tail that was this big. it was a big white fuzzy tail, then like a leg was sticking out of the garbage can. i had a box on top of it and they were wheeling it in there like really quick like trying to hurry and one of the other employees were like mopping up the blood that was like dripping out of the garbage can on to the floor. >> oh, dear. so the lady called the health department and an inspector says sure enough, when he showed up, there was indeed a dead deer in the kitchen. he told a local news station that the owner's son admitted to picking it up on the side of the road. on the highway, as a matter of fact. the county sheriff elaborates. >> they had it cut up and they were dissecting it. >> okay. so they were dissecting it. maybe the kitchen staff teaches a rogue eighth grade biology class in the back. that's a logical explanation, right? when people heard about this, the whole road kill and the restaurant thing, they didn't like it one bit. in fact, one might say they were
disgusted. very, very disgusted. >> disgusted. very, very disgusted. >> i was just like oh, god, you know. i was like, i couldn't believe it. i just could not. >> now, the county health department has shut the place down. they say the restaurant will have to be thoroughly cleaned before they even think of letting it reopen. burning question is, if it does open again, will people want to go there now? >> for them to pick up something off the road and who knows how long it's been dead, no. >> i would very thoroughly check my food before i ate it if i did. >> i'm not sure, but maybe they're overreacting just a bit. look, it's getting to the point where you can't even wheel one bloody deer carcass into a restaurant in a strip mall in kentucky in the middle of lunch without people freaking out and calling the health department. now, the people who own the restaurant say it was for their own personal use, that they weren't going to serve the deer. judge for yourself. perhaps my perspective is slightly skewed because i do